A new chapter in the Nuke Controversy
Posted by laura47 on May 6, 2008
Given our reading about homosexuality on “All my Children”, this seems an appropriate time to give an update on the Nuke controversy. As you probably know, Luke and Noah have finally kissed again after many months of nothing but hugs and longing looks. During that drought, there seemed to be more protests for them to kiss against than protests against showing homosexuality. Here’s a CNN clip from March:
The conservative guest very much identifies displays Luke/Noah affection as the pushing of an agenda, rather than the natural evolution of a relationship. I should offer a disclaimer here and say that I am very much in favor of the Luke/Noah storyline and have done volunteer work for what people call “the homosexual agenda”, mostly with MassEquality.
As detailed in this Boston Globe article and this wikipedia article as well as many other places, there has been a significant campaign by Nuke fans to have them kiss again, including running a counter since their last kiss. Now the “How Long Since They Kissed” Counter can finally reset!
But, the kiss has sparked renewed controversy on the anti-gay front, including from the AFA.
I have been following the AFA for awhile. The AFA is strongly anti-homosexuality, though to be fair they also oppose graphic heterosexuality on television. The website says “The American Family Association exists to motivate and equip citizens to change the culture to reflect Biblical truth and traditional family values.” I am on their mailing list to see what they are up to and who they are boycotting. They had a long boycott of Ford for doing things like advertising in gay magazines and other “support” of the “homosexual agenda”, which was called off when they claimed Ford had changed their policies, though Ford disagreed. Back in late February they called Proctor & Gamble the “Top Pro-Homosexual Sponsor on Television” This is their list of the top “offenders”, and here is their criteria: http://www.afa.net/monitoringresultswinter07.asp. They based it on what ads aired during shows that were too gay for their tastes, shows that were identified by GLAAD (Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation) “for their positive promotion of homosexuality.”
AFA says: “In each program monitored, homosexuality was promoted in a positive manner as a normal and accepted lifestyle. Some scenes included homosexual kisses and bedrooms scenes. In instances where opposition to homosexuality was portrayed, the opposing character was publicly ridiculed or condemned by the other characters on the program.”
I had been wondering when the AFA would catch on the Nuke storyline and call P&G out for that, as they are of course far more involved in ATWT than in primetime shows they advertise on.The truth is, I first found out about the kiss when the AFA sent me mail about it with a link. View a scene from the April 23, 2008 episode by P&G. WARNING – content is repulsive!. I am not sure why they so often send out links to clips of homosexuality. I am sure they would say it was to show people how ‘repulsive’ it is so they can properly offended and rise up against it, but, well, you know what they say about homophobes… ;-)
On May 2, I got mail from the AFA about Nuke and the phone line they set up regarding the plot line. (Which I posted about on April 28, and which is now closed.)
Procter & Gamble wants to know if you approve of its support of the homosexual lifestyle
Company establishes toll-free number to call
May 2, 2008
Procter & Gamble wants to know if you approve its efforts to promote the homosexual lifestyle. It has established a toll-free number for you to call and vote to approve or disapprove its support of homosexuality.
P&G has added homosexual lovers to its soap opera “As the World Turns.” It has also added scenes of homosexuals with open mouth kissing. The motive behind P&G’s push is to desensitize viewers, especially younger viewers, to the homosexual lifestyle. The ultimate goal of homosexual activists is homosexual marriage.
Thousands of homosexual activists are already calling P&G.
Here’s one interesting blog post about the Nuke phone line.
Supporting “Nuke”, to me at least, is about a lot more than just supporting gays on TV. It’s about supporting television that makes you think, that forces you to question your own beliefs, see a different side of the story you might not always agree with – it supports the idea that yes, we watch TV to escape reality sometimes… but we ALSO watch TV to sometimes see realities we might not have any other access to otherwise. We want intelligence in our stories – we want a reflection of what we see in our day-to-day lives. We want to see the human struggle.
Please call. And let them know that yes – even if you do disagree with the story, you still support it because sometimes it’s okay to be a little uncomfortable. People were uncomfortable when slavery came to an end, they were uncomfortable when women started working full-time, and they were uncomfortable when Maude got an abortion or when Archie Bunker used the N-Word. And you know what? It’s OKAY that you’re a little uncomfortable with two guys kissing on TV. I applaud TV that makes me squirm a little, because it opens up new worlds to me, and helps me become a more tolerant, more understanding person, to question things I’ve accepted at face value, to wonder what I would do in that situation or if I can learn something from my reaction to what I just witnessed on the screen. This is a society where we are constantly learning and growing – and a genre that once upon a time, prided itself on being a serious learning tool. Don’t let it become a joke. (emphasis removed because it broke my formatting)
I can’t find the link, but I read somewhere that CBS says they will not make and story decisions based on this poll, they will just use it as information. So, we’ll see what happens. I doubt they will release any numbers.
Some tidbits from the mediadomain boards…
This thread is neutral-positive:
“I voted for LUKE AND NOAH, however this is not the way to run a soap opera. A head writer should be allowed to write for the characters not let mass public opinion on a phone message board decide things. So many homophobic people out there could just call and call all day. And to be fair, folks like myself who do support the storyline could do the same. I long for the days of a strong EP and a great head writer who could tell a story and attract viewers. “
“I’m disgusted that this poll is even being done. But I did vote in favor of Luke & Noah. Though I also am not really a fan of their’s, just want to see a realistic modern world on my television. “
” Wish it were that black and white. Would love a “support gay inclusion, but don’t care about Luke and Noah at ALL” option.”
” More power to them. The sooner this disgusting story ends, the better. “
“GLADD has lost my respect, seeing any depiction of a gay couple as being something to cheer about–even Nuke. Nuke is an insult to gay & straight relationships, period. It certainly doesn’t have the good storytelling that would do such a serious, socially relivant topic justice! I also find it difficult to believe that GLADD, or any other oragnization, would find it so acceptable that stright men are playing this gay couple! Now they are doing the same thing(s) w/the ‘marriage’ to Ameera!”
“I think P&G is playing all kinds of games with the nuke sl, with the nuke fans, and the fact that they didn’t get a Daytime Emmy nomination is the payback karma that they get for manipulating fans.
Based on the reports from the fan luncheon, dropping the Nuke sl would be killing the proverbial goose that laid the golden egg.
Nuke is not going anywhere; Noah is not going to flip his rainbow and knock up Ameera, and fans should NOT let the show’s game playing whip them into a frenzy to drum up publicity for the show.”
Other bits of Nuke news:
- Van Hansis (Luke) might be gay: http://www.gaywired.com/Article.cfm?ID=18909
– Older one, CBS daytime head sounds supportive of Nuke: http://www.tvsquad.com/2008/04/07/cbs-daytime-head-is-all-for-gay-love-story-on-as-the-world-turns/
– GLAAD president with a bit about Nuke: http://www.insidesocal.com/outinhollywood/2008/05/interview_glaad_president_on_t.html